Is Obama making deliberate lies about the Arizona immigration bill?

At his talk in Iowa today, President Obama denounced those who would "exploited for political purposes" the immigration issue.

this law that just passed in Arizona — which I think is a poorly conceived law — (applause) — you can try to make it really tough on people who look like they, “might be illegal immigrants.” One of the things that the law says is local officials are allowed to ask somebody who they have a suspicion might be an illegal immigrant for their papers. But you can imagine, if you are a Hispanic American in Arizona — your great-grandparents may have been there before Arizona was even a state. But now, suddenly, if you don’t have your papers and you took your kid out to get ice cream, you’re going to be harassed. That’s something that could potentially happen. That’s not the right way to go.

It is pretty outrageous that the president would claim that people could get arrested for just taking their kids out for ice cream. Does the president understand what "lawful contact" means? Does he understand what "reasonable suspicion" means?

Whether one likes the law or not it is sad to see a law so distorted. Minor point, you don't have to produce "Your papers." One has to provide a driver's license, some state issued ID, or some federally issued ID. The current federal law requires that we have to provide much more than that to get a job in order to deal with Illegal aliens. Why is that OK, but not the Arizona law? The Arizona law is not extreme. It basically means that the police must already have pulled you over or arrested you for some completely unrelated reason than citizenship issues and then must have a "reasonable suspicion" for asking for the ID. Asking people for ID for someone who you have arrested or detained based solely on race is illegal.

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Blogger Brittanicus said...



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4/28/2010 3:57 PM  
Blogger nathan118 said...

Maybe you can help me with this John. My question is, what if an actual citizen is pulled over for a speeding ticket, but doesn't have their license at the time. If they look hispanic or whatever, what would happen to them? Are the people given an opportunity to provide that later, or would they automatically be sent to prison?

A friend of mine said a driver's license isn't good enough, and that people would be arrested anyways because a driver's license isn't proof of citizenship.

Just want to get a clear sense of what would actually happen from an enforcement perspective. Thanks!

4/28/2010 5:39 PM  
Blogger John Lott said...

Dear Nathan:

You can read my piece here. Thanks.

4/28/2010 7:08 PM  

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