Some of the media reaction to my comments on gun-free zones

-- Facts, not emotions, must guide post-Newtown debate
-- Washington Examiner responds to WP: No evidence right-to-carry laws increase crime

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Blogger Unknown said...

Keep up the good work, sir.

12/18/2012 5:14 PM  
Blogger ImperialDave said...

I've been using this claim, "“With just one single exception every public shooting since at least 1950 in the U.S. in which more than three people have been killed has taken place where citizens are not allowed to carry guns,” but after looking, it seems like it's not right, at least in the last year.

This list is from a Liberal who got it from a Liberal site:

1) Sandy Brook Elementary - Concealed Carry allowed on school grounds with school permission. Open carry allowed on school grounds allowed with permit - the law does not address permission.Not a gun free zone.
2) Clackamas Town center (last week) - Concealed carry allowed in Oregon malls. Open carry allowed in Oregon malls. Not a gun free zone.
3) Minneapolis shootings (september) - concealed carry allowed. Owner of business and security may also carry with permit. Not a gun free zone.
4) Sikh Temple (august) - Concealed carry allowed with permit on church ground. Open carry allowed on church grounds. Not a gun free zone.
5) Cafe Racer shootings (May) - concealed carry allowed on street and in restaurant. Open carry allowed with state permit. Not a gun free zone.
6) The Alvin Watts, Jake England shootings (April). - Concealed carry allowed. Open carry allowed. Carry and defensive fire allowed under Oklahoma castle laws. Not a gun free zone.

The Minneapolis shooting seems, from my research, to have not been in a gun free zone, and I don't think the Clackamas Town center was either. I've been looking to see if I can find your research on the subject. Can you show me how you came to your statement?

12/18/2012 5:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In states with concealed carry laws, any business can post a sign stating no firearms allowed and it then becomes illegal to carry on the property. So while that site isn't untrue with their statements, it CAN be allowed by law, these places posted signs making it illegal. All you have to do is call the establishment and ask.

12/20/2012 8:16 AM  
Blogger Christopher said...

1991, Luby, Texas- 24 dead. 2011, Carson City, Nevada- 5 dead. Both had concealed carry laws. There are SO many others- I won't take the time. If you are into it, check out "list of rampage killer" and "school shootings" on Wikipedia.

8/24/2013 5:27 PM  
Blogger John Lott said...

Dear Christopher:
Thanks for writing, but, sorry, simply saying that a state had a right-to-carry concealed carry law doesn't tell you whether a place is a gun free zone. Many right-to-carry states ban guns in certain places and in other places they leave the decision up to the property owner. BTW, Texas wasn't a right-to-carry state until 1996. I also don't count the death of the killer in the totals. I have posted many posts on this topic that you might find helpful. Here is one example:


8/25/2013 4:09 AM  

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