2/11/2009

One of the costs of the global warming hysteria

Probably a little less than 15 years ago when my children were little and we were all living in Swarthmore, PA I saw this hysteria first hand. When you have a lot of little kids over there is always the chances of accidents occurring. One time I was walking by the bathroom and noticed a disturbing smell. Well, it turns out that multiple children had used the toilet without flushing it. The problem? They were fearful that we were running out of water. Absurd. This was in very green southeastern Pennsylvania. Anyway, I was reminded of that story when I saw this:

PSYCHIATRISTS have detected the first case of "climate change delusion" - and they haven't even yet got to Kevin Rudd and his global warming guru.

Writing in the Australian and New Zealand Journal of Psychiatry, Joshua Wolf and Robert Salo of our Royal Children's Hospital say this delusion was a "previously unreported phenomenon".

"A 17-year-old man was referred to the inpatient psychiatric unit at Royal Children's Hospital Melbourne with an eight-month history of depressed mood . . . He also . . . had visions of apocalyptic events." . . . .

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6 Comments:

OpenID forthesakeofscience said...

Multiple children being fearful of using too much water is not a mental illness. Apples and oranges, John.

2/13/2009 2:02 AM  
Blogger Martin G. Schalz said...

" forthesakeofscience said...
Multiple children being fearful of using too much water is not a mental illness. Apples and oranges, John."

It is not mental illness. That I can almost agree with. It is however, brainwashing. When does this brainwashing become a crime?

Or is it just that if it is a leftist idea, it is okay to cram it down every childs throat, and consequences be damned! After all, the left wing only wants to save the world, yes?

2/14/2009 1:42 AM  
OpenID forthesakeofscience said...

The issue I've raised is not brainwashing. Let's focus on the continued dishonesty from John.

He just compared mental illness to children being afraid. Next thing you know he's going to compare the homeless man on the corner of the street yelling at monsters to children fearing what's in their closets.

2/15/2009 8:08 PM  
Blogger Martin G. Schalz said...

forthesakeofscience said...
"The issue I've raised is not brainwashing. Let's focus on the continued dishonesty from John."

I raised the issue of brainwashing.

Dr. Lott's dishonesty? How and where? Dr. Lott makes an excellent point about how he recalled something in his life after he read an article of an 17 year old being admitted to a psych unit for fears of running out of water.

"A 17-year-old man was referred to the inpatient psychiatric unit at Royal Children's Hospital Melbourne with an eight-month history of depressed mood . . . He also . . . had visions of apocalyptic events.

The patient had also developed the belief that, due to climate change, his own water consumption could lead within days to the deaths of millions of people through exhaustion of water supplies."

Does this not nearly match the childrens fears of running out of water? Our children are bombarded with such nonsense on a daily basis (brainwashing), and Dr. Lott uses an anecdote to underscore the costs of global warming hysteria.

This is a lie in what way? Dr. Lott provides facts, while you on the other hand, depend on rhetoric. You accuse Dr. Lott of lying, yet you provide no data/proofs to support your argument.

Then again, I may have misunderstood. It is obvious that you are a student of history, forthesakeofscience.

Reichsministerium für Volksaufklärung und Propaganda...

Thanks to you, I truly feel enlightned now! Isn't history great?

Mundis vult decipi.

2/16/2009 3:40 AM  
OpenID forthesakeofscience said...

I raised the issue of brainwashing.

I know. It is irrelevant to my point about John comparing fears generated through the nature of being a child to fears generated through the nature of mental illness.

Dr. Lott's dishonesty? How and where? Dr. Lott makes an excellent point about how he recalled something in his life after he read an article of an 17 year old being admitted to a psych unit for fears of running out of water.

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Does this not nearly match the childrens fears of running out of water?


No, it does not. Lott, presumably not being functionally retarded, should know better. The childhood fears he notes are not the result of mental illness. The case he cited, however, is the result of mental illness.

Again, I'll repeat the jist of the analogy which fits this to a T: children are afraid of monsters in their closets. The reason is because it is the nature of children to believe such things and to have active imaginations. Whether someone tricked them into being afraid of closet monsters is irrelevant (this references your brainwashing concern). Some adults also believe their are monsters in their closets. Assuming retardation or injury are not at issue, the cause is likely mental illness.

Let me continue to lay this out for you, Martin.

Children fearing monsters is simply a case of kids being kids. Adults fearing monsters is probably a case of mental illness. Whether or not the children were brainwashed is irrelevant here because John compared childhood fears to mental illness. Even if I grant that brainwashing is at hand (and it isn't), it does not matter. Brainwashing is still not comparable to mental illness. That's inappropriate - and dishonest.

2/18/2009 2:01 AM  
Blogger Martin G. Schalz said...

Obviously you have missed the crux of this subject, forthesakeofscience.

Global Warming Hysteria. Key word here is hysteria. We, as a global society have been bombarded with utter nonsense about how we humans are destroying the earth. This propaganda is very extensive, pervasive, and has no basis in science, yet the sky is falling!?!

So who is causing these fears that the 17 year old, and the children that Dr. Lott refered to. The Fairy Godmother? No, it is folks such as yourself, that spew forth unsubstaniated garbage such as global warming, in a misguided attempt to further personal agendas, as well as weak egos.

Once again I must ask as to the proof that Dr.Lott is a liar. You obviously disagree with Dr. Lott, as you have accused him many a time of being dishonest, yet you still fail to provide proof.

"Let me continue to lay this out for you, Martin.

Children fearing monsters is simply a case of kids being kids. Adults fearing monsters is probably a case of mental illness. Whether or not the children were brainwashed is irrelevant here because John compared childhood fears to mental illness. Even if I grant that brainwashing is at hand (and it isn't), it does not matter. Brainwashing is still not comparable to mental illness. That's inappropriate - and dishonest."

Teaching Children via propaganda is a means of mental and behavioural conditioning that is utilised by those who wish to control said children when they become older. Hitler-Jugend anyone?

Brainwashing is irrelevent? Childhood fears can and do lead to problems later in life.

Dr. Lott simply posted an anecdote about his experiences with this particular piece of propaganda, and how it affected the childern around him. The story that followed, supports the fact that childhood fears can and do lead to problems later in life.

"Children fearing monsters is simply a case of kids being kids. Adults fearing monsters is probably a case of mental illness."

The only difference between the above mentioned groups is one of age. You've just compared childhood fears to mental illness.

Ahhhhh, I get it now. Projection!

2/18/2009 6:56 AM  

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