"Convert or Else"

Fox News has a new report (Al-Qaeda’s # 2 releases new video calling for Americans to convert to Islam) that makes one wonder why anyone thinks that Al-Qaeda can be talked to. How do you compromise with a group that wants you to either convert or to die? How do you give in half way?

Here is another statement from the tape:

"Instead of killing yourself for Bush ... why not surrender to the truth (of Islam), escape from the unbedlieving army and join the winning side. Time is running out so make the right choice before it's too late,

"Time is running out"?


Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah -- agreed. How do you begin to negotiate with Hizbollah, for example, when their goal is to obliterate Israel? What do you offer them? Do you say: "Obliterating all of Israel is too much . . . how about if you only obliterate 20% of Israel, and in return we'll offer you an incentive package consisting of . . . "

And if Hizbollah decides to negotiate, do you concede another 10% of Israel?

On a related issue. Mark Steyn has an excellent column here: http://tinyurl.com/55tnu

Key graffs:

"The moment the men were released, the Western media and their colleagues wrote off the scene as a stunt, a cunning ruse, of no more consequence than yelling "Behind you! He's got a gun!" and then kicking your distracted kidnapper in the teeth. Indeed, a few Web sites seemed to see the Islamic conversion routine as a useful get-out-of-jail-free card. . . .

"[F]or the Fox journalists and the Western media who reported their release, what's the big deal? Wear robes, change your name to Khaled, go on camera and drop Allah's name hither and yon: If that's your ticket out, seize it. Everyone'll know it's just a sham.

"But that's not how the al-Jazeera audience sees it. If you're a Muslim, the video is anything but meaningless. Not even the dumbest jihadist believes these infidels are suddenly true believers. Rather, it confirms the central truth Osama and the mullahs have been peddling -- that the West is weak, that there's nothing -- no core, no bedrock -- nothing it's not willing to trade."


9/03/2006 10:46 AM  
Blogger saturdaynightspecial said...

This topic is a waste of time. What's the big deal ? Christians in the US will talk the same rhetoric involving proselytizing.

This topic also has it's focus on Hezbollah of which is only a symptom of the problem, not the cause. If you want a solution, eliminate the problem (the cause) not a symptom (brought on by the

I'm all for the continued existence of Israel; and that Israel use whatever means to defend itself. In fact, if we were to stay out of this problem and remove ourselves completely from the Middle East most of the problem would be eliminated.

Today, the problem is exacerbated by warhawk legacy seeking republicans who are as hypocritical on 'limited government' as their democratic opponents are on guns. Americans can't get it right. Both sides have an agenda that does not serve the Framer's intent: limited government and individual rights.

In the next election I will suffer for my gun rights and gain (a little) on limited government. Because of Bush and his war folly republicans will loose control and dems will gain - there go my gun rights. Americans are so ass-backwards even I have a hard time explaining this. Both sides have their hands in the treasury, both sides insist on government doing something for them it was never designed or intended to do.

Paradoxically no, hypocritically yes, republicans are on a religious crusade against another brand. Democrats (in a more criminal form) want to create dictatorship in the fashion of Adolf Hitler (while leading everyone to believe they are sensitive towards children).

Religion is the part of the problem, but it is Believers that can get me my gun rights. But in the next election right wing religious nut jobs are going down; not because of their stance on guns, but because of their holy crusade into the holy Middle East.

Both sides use our government for their selfish interests; one for their need to score points with the almighty, the other to nurture their phobia on guns and for more control over all of us.

Holy crap, and I can't even reach for a gun to shield and protect myself from all this insanity.

9/04/2006 3:28 AM  
Blogger John Lott said...

Dear saturdaynightspecial:

Thanks for the comment. But can you give me one example where Christian group in the US that is threatening to eliminate those who don't convert ("Christians in the US will talk the same rhetoric involving proselytizing")? I do agree with you though that if Israel were given the freedom to do what it thinks best there wouldn't be much of a problem.

9/04/2006 3:41 AM  
Blogger saturdaynightspecial said...

"...can you give me one example where Christian group in the US that is threatening to eliminate those who don't convert...[Lott]

Bush is an Evangelist. Christian missionaries have always ignored reality and fact and placed their goal to convert above all else.

The American threat is implied; but it is obvious. Why does Bush say we are in Iraq ? To spread freedom and democracy. It's not our business or place to do anything in Iraq. Bush invaded Iraq to convert Iraqis into democrats (and Christians.) He won't convet them into either. His strategy is to incite as much violence and bloodshed as possible; this will convince Iraqis their way of life isn't functional, then they'll convert. Consider all the Iraqis killed by this strategy.

When Iraqis' learn the CIA is inciting one group to attack the other they'll never forget it. It will make Arabs hate the US more.

And consider what this strategy does to freedom here: if democrats win a majority what may happen to gun rights? The best rhetoric, research and statistics don't convince anti-gun politicians to respect the 2nd amendment - the only thing that guarantees gun rights are republicans.

Holy crusading in Africa (nature worshippers) is one thing, but attempting to convert Allah worshippers is totally different and impossible.

9/05/2006 5:14 AM  

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